Hair extensions + salt water = baldness
We are back from Jamaica and I came home with a very important lesson in hand. Learned the hard (and expensive) way, but learned nonetheless.
Hair extensions and salt water don't mix.
You see, I have been unsuccessfully trying to grow my hair out over the last year, but every time it got to that in-between stage (you know, the one where it no longer holds your style, but is not long enough to do anything with), I would go back in and cut it all off. So, I thought – why not try hair extensions. I had done this years ago and absolutely loved it, and it would be the perfect way to get through the next couple of hair growing grueling months.
So I did my research and found Pivocal in Sunnyvale – the website was ranked number one in the Bay Area and she seemed to have done quite a few applications so I set my appointment, bought my hair and spent hours in her chair trying to get the glam look. Well, the first try was unsuccessful. The hair she sold me became crunchy (yes, crunchy) within a week and felt fake, so we had to take it out and start all over again. Of course, her website states there are ‘no guarantees’ on the hair or the application, so I had to cough up more dough for a new batch of hair. This time though, we went with the high-end stuff (Russian virgin – I know, sounds silly, right?). But boy oh boy – does it look and feel good.
So off to Jamaica Chris and I go with my glam hair flowing in the wind. Then it happens. The second day we are there we had spent most of the time swimming in the ocean. We came in to shower for dinner and I end up with five extension stands entwined in my fingers as I am shampooing my nogin. Hmmm…that doesn’t seem right. Oh well, let’s just put those in my bag and we will deal with it when I get home. Day three – another two stands. Day four – I am swimming in the pool with my buddy Jen when she comes over to me with an extension strand in her hand. She said it had looked like a little water snake floating near the top. Now that is embarrassing. Day five – another two…and so on. By the end of the trip, I have lost 24 strands and have to keep my hair in a ponytail as I am almost ‘bald’.
So I am pissed. The extensions were supposed to last 2-3 months and it hadn’t even been 30 days. Of course, Pivocal will glue me back together – but for a fee. After all I have paid her to still not have the look I wanted, this seems wrong to me. When I asked her why I lost so much – she mentioned the salt water may not have been good for my extensions. Gee – you think? I had spent 14 hours in her chair between the two previous installations and mentioned on more than one occasion I was headed to Jamaica – she couldn’t have warned me about the possible hair loss before I set foot on the plane? Knowing this, I would have waited to do the application until after our trip. But no. Not a word from her beforehand. Only ‘pay me more and I will fix it’.
So I am done with Pivocal. She has a huge chunk of my money and I am left an unhappy customer. I am intentionally not linking to her as I do not wish to boost up her ranking any more – I merely give her company name to hopefully forewarn others out there not to use her services.
I am now debating whether or not to have them redone or pulled out completely and just suffer through the growing out stage naturally. I have found a really swell guy here in San Francisco (Damian at Hair Play) who did the extensions for a friend of mine and they look fabulous. So if I am going to redo them, Damian is my man. It only comes down to whether or not I can swallow the cost again as this is not an inexpensive process.
Guess it is time to buy a lotto ticket.
P.S. I have pictures of the clump of hair I lost and will post it later. I am sure you are dying to see it. :)
36 Comments:
hey christy! humm.. im not sure if your post changes my mind over hair extensions or not.. i have pretty thin wavy hair.. and it grows to that certin length and stops.well it just takes forever!. i want it longer and thought hair extensions with real hair would be a good thing.. but im not too sure anymore.. what do you sugguest? im not sure how much hair extencsions cost. and was wondering if you could tell me a price range? and possibly locate me to this damin guy?.. i live in the bay area and am trying to research as possible before i do somthing like this..
thanks for all your help
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2:56 PM
Extensions can be beautiful done, with the right hair and the right beautician but It's important keep realistic expectations..extension are just "attachments" to our real hair..thus we need to treat them with a lot of care..and of course there are lot of dont's...like sea water, hot water,oily products..your hair dresser should told you ..but guess what? I think it was her only mistake..Extensions are beautiful but let's keep realistic expectations...
3:53 PM
Hi Stacie,
Done well, they can look beautiful. My beef in this post was with the girl from Pivocal as she knew I was headed to Jamaica to play in the ocean and did not ever say anything about salt water eating the glue. Maybe I should have known, but I trusted her to educate me on proper wear and tear. She did not. She was in it solely for the cash which sucks and my rotten experience generated this post.
A week after I wrote this post, I went in and had Damian (Hair Play on Church Street in San Francisco) put a new set in and I was really happy. He took my chin length hair and gave me a mid back length, lush mane that lasted about three months. I happily recommend Damian as he is a hair God. As for price, a lot of it depends on the hair you buy. I ended up spending about $1600, but that included the hair, the application, color (both my own and the extensions), and a cut afterwards. It was a lot of money, but it got me through the stage I had been battling for a year, so I was happy. I have not done it since, but am seriously thinking about it again.
4:06 PM
I had hair extensions done by Lisa Clark in Grants pass at Beverly Hills Salon. All readers beware of her. She has not a clue of what she is doing and also told me I could swim and do as usualy with the extensions. I had them falling out and shedding everywhere.Some beauticians should seriously have their lisences yanked for such bad business practices.
10:30 PM
I also went to pivocal and was extremely disappointed. I don't know why they are still in business. I had a tape procedure for the extensoins done that was to last 2 - 3 months, lasted 2 days, started falling out in clumps. I did go back and asked for my money back and it was refunded. Of course the cost of hair was lost.
I am comtemplating getting extension again and read good reviews on Hair Play.
How did it go there?
1:31 AM
DEAR KRISTIE...
HI..JUST HAD TO COMMENT ON YOUR STORY & SHARE MINE WITH YOU!? EXTENSIONS?? YEAH,THEY'RE PRETTY COOL BUT CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENED TO ME & CAUSED THE SITUATION I'M IN NOW!? NOT REALLY SURE WHAT TO DO & I'M REALLY UPSET ABOUT IT! YOU JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE GET SOMEONE WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING & DON'T RIP YOU OFF MONEY-WISE! IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE! I PAID $1350 FOR MY LONG HAIR EXTENSIONS EACH TIME I HAD THEM DONE BY THE SAME PERSON AT THE SAME SALON! I TOO WANTED TO GROW MY LONG HAIR OUT AGAIN QUICKLY BUT WAS ALWAYS BLEACHING & COLORING MY HAIR EVERY COLOR IN THE RAINBOW UNTIL MY HAIR APPARENTLY GOT TIRED OF ALL THE ABUSE SO I HAD TONS OF SPLIT ENDS THAT HAD TO BE CUT!!SO I GOT LONG HAIR EXTENSIONS!MY HAIR WAS BEAUTIFUL!THE SALON PIVOCAL? THEY SOUND JUST LIKE THEY DO NOT KNOW ABOUT EXTENSIONS,PERIOD!?THEY SOLD YOU "RUSSIAN VIRGIN" HAIR? WHAT IDIOTS! THEY'RE SAYING VIRGIN HAIR IS BETTER THAN HAIR THAT'S BEEN AROUND THE BLOCK A COUPLE OF TIMES!? THAT'S FUNNY! RUSSIAN VIRGIN HAIR,CHINESE VIRGIN HAIR?NO! HUMAN HAIR, I REPEAT REAL HUMAN HAIR IS WHAT YOU WANT!IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT NATIONALIY THE HAIR IS! AND THE SALT H2O BOTHERING YOUR EXTENSIONS? THAT DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT UNLESS THE GLUE OR BONDING STUFF WAS JUST CRAP THAT PIVOCAL USED!IF THEY USED REAL HUMAN HAIR ALSO THERE SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN A PROBLEM BECAUSE IT IS REAL!?? I MYSELF,STOPPED GOING TO THAT SALON BECAUSE OF A SLIGHT DISAGREEMENT WE HAD AND STARTED TO DO MY OWN EXTENSIONS! I HAVE BEEN WEARING EXTENSIONS IN MY HAIR FOR 2YRS NOW! I HAVE BEEN DOING MY OWN HAIR FOR THE LAST YEAR MYSELF AND NOW I'M TOTALLY BALD IN THE BACK OF MY HAIR & HAVE TO KEEP WEARING THE EXTENSIONS ATTACHED WITH THE BONDING GLUE UNTIL I CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT WENT WRONG OR WHAT I NEED TO DO ABOUT IT!? I WAS NEVER TOLD THAT YOU COULD LOOSE YOUR HAIR COMPLETELY1 I GOT THEM SO I COULD GROW MY HAIR BACK SECRETLY AND NOW I HAVE NO HAIR!! SO EMBARRASSING & DEPRESSING1 I'M JUST TELLING YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE A STRANGER AND WOULD NEVER COP TO IT TO SOMEONE THAT I KNEW!!?HONESTLY!!WELL..NICE TALKING TO YOU,,,TAKE CARE...
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notajezebeljill...I just want to say that russian virgin is the best on the market right now. Any professional hairstylist will tell you that. It has the best texture. and a tidbit of typing etiquette...typing in all caps means you're screaming.
3:25 PM
I was never told about saltwater either...And btw Virgin Russian hair is in controversey. Fom all the reseach i did there is no such thing as virgin hair... as it must be boiled and chemically treated due to FDA regulations their is no "virgin" hair sold in the US
8:46 PM
Ive been waiting a week to get the extensions and checkeing every day till they were restocked and when i checked today they were restocked but sold out. ugh. do u know when they will restock?? i neeeeed off black deluxe package:)
6:43 AM
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3:10 PM
I think it is not necessary to be a hair professional to understand all the damage that salt water causes to our hair, especially if we are wearing extensions because it keeps humid longer. My recommendation is if you are going to the beach you'd better carry a bathing cap.
9:51 AM
My friend loves her Russian hair extensions. I wonder if it's the way in which they apply the extensions to your head that makes the difference.
7:41 PM
I have extensions, real hair, not sure if its from Russia or not???? Ha! Anyway, my hair is not attached with glue, it is attached to my own hair strands by beads that clamp on. Every six weeks I have to get the beads "moved up" closer to my scalp as my own hair grows. I wonder if salt water would be damaging. I am going on vacation to the USVI and hate to stay out of the water the whole time! Maybe it would be ok if I applied good conditioner prior to swimming and then rinse right away? Please share any thoughts.
2:52 PM
I have extensions, real hair, not sure if its from Russia or not???? Ha! Anyway, my hair is not attached with glue, it is attached to my own hair strands by beads that clamp on. Every six weeks I have to get the beads "moved up" closer to my scalp as my own hair grows. I wonder if salt water would be damaging. I am going on vacation to the USVI and hate to stay out of the water the whole time! Maybe it would be ok if I applied good conditioner prior to swimming and then rinse right away? Please share any thoughts.
2:52 PM
Hi ladies, i too had the same problem with the bonding glue, and it made my hair a total mess, not to mention it hurt my hair so badly that the sides are 3 inches shorter than the rest. I have pretty thin hair about to my neck in the back, and to my ears in the front. I have been wearing wefts hooked on my aluminum micro beads. they are absolutely wonderful! I only have to get them put back in every 6 months or longer. Thats not because they fall out or get tangled or anything, just from the new growth. they dont take long to put in, and feel the most comfortable and realistic. I have went swimming in the ocean in them along with swimming in the pools with them, also curling,straightening,and blow drying. I do use a heat protectant, and deep condition them 2 times a week. When they start to get loose from the growth, you dont even have to take them out, you just loosen the aluminum bead and tighten the weft and bead back up unless you want a different color or such. I just thought i woul let you know about this technique, because it seriously saves alot of time and money, and they look amazing. I hope this helps somebody. :) Ps. if youre wondering what this is, then go to youtube and search "non sewn beaded weft extensions" this gives you a better explanation.
1:47 PM
Ummmm I just got my extensions 2 days ago and im going to the beach on sunday.... Whats going to happen to my hair? I am a bit afraid now :(
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3:52 AM
I swim all the time with my great lengths extensions. I swim in saltwater for 5 hours a day teaching swimming- you just have to take extra care. Before goin in the water I wet my hair and then coat it with conditioner. Then i put a lycra cap to prevent pulling and a silicone one over it to keep as much of the water off as possible. When done I rinse my hair wekk- put anti tap on the bonds and then more conditioner and morrocian oil. I finger comb to untangle , brush every other day and only shampoo 3xs a week. Mine last between 4-6 months.
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7:27 AM
ummm no offense, but you should have done your own research. I have tape extensions (Remy hair, with the company Brijon for the extensions). They are great. I also had a great hairdresser put them in (here in Florida). The hairdresser you choose is the most important part of the process, then the hair. You are not supposed to swim AT ALL with hair extensions. Moisture is your enemy.
10:48 AM
When you say bald do you mean without hair extensions or that you literally lost your real hair due to it?
5:20 PM
I'm sorry that so many of you are having extension issues,
Daily I work with clients who have little to no hair at all, and most of the work I do is custom. I use 5 of the top hair replacement companies in the country.
Any one who wears hair has to understand that this is not your hair (well technically it is because you paid for it). You must remember, most of the hair you are getting, Russian, European, Indian, Asain, Remi, and anything else you can think of was grown by someone. Those persons are from third world countries? Maybe not the best diet? Water conditions? Health? Etc...
As we all know that what we put in our body's or not, can effect the condition of our hair, and skin.
Also we forget the process that your extension hair has gone thru in order to give it the color you love. Most of the the hair used/donated is black in color . Takes a lot of chemicals to get it to a nice pale blonde and anything in between.
I use the example of it being similar to having your cloths dry cleaned, you know the smell I'm talking about, lots and lots of chemicals! Those chemicals take out the natural pigment of the hair, removes the cuticle, and removes lice, yuck!,, before they infuse a new color, shape, curly to straight, and a chemical that gives it a shine that makes you think you have the best quality out there. Eventually that goes away too.
That's why NO SALT WATER!
So remember, your stylist,, me included, never know the quality of the hair we get. Most of the time I receive wonderful hair that lasts for months, then I get the dry, matted, OMGOSH nasty hair. When searching for a stylist ask them what their guarantee from the company they buy from is, this could save you a lot of money down the road. Most companies will have a 30 day. But beware of that too. These companies have a way of determining if the problem was with lack of care on your part, or something that went wrong from the get go, and guaranteed it will always be your fault.
Stylists, always make sure you wash your new hair with clarifying shampoo before installation. You will know right away if you have soft beautiful hair or something that will be a problem later on.
Good luck to all of you hair wearers
Hope this helps sheds some light.
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I was told that swimming or leaving your extensions wet is going to make them slide dwn. So I just apply conditioner to the extensions then put them into a rubber type swimming cap when i go to the gym. Last time when I went away on holidays I just had these removed and took my clip ins, since i didnt have time to look after them on holidays.
Previously when I had the bonded strands, they dont slide at all but they seem to break some of my natural hair after wearing them for 4 months.Although the bonds are cheaper than the tape ins, I would never go back to keratin bonds again.
Another issue with extensions, is that they should be removed when you color or treat your hair. the tape or bonds are going to come out anyways when the hair dye penetrate the bonds. Also the root touch up looks patchy with the extensions on.
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